BDSM & Bondage

Femdom_Ep 8 – Kinky Threesome: the Fuck of His Life Date: April 13, 2018Genre: Anal, BDSM, Big Tits, Bisexual, Bizarre, Black Hair, Blindfold, Blonde, Blowjob, Bondage, Boot Worship, Brunette, CBT, Chains, Corporal Punishment, Deepthroat, Deprivation, Dildo, Discipline, Domination, Dominatrix, Dungeon, Femdom, Fetish, First Anal, Flogging, Foreskin, Gloves, High Heels, Hood, …

BDSMmania_Daddy’s Discipline Date: March 7, 2017Genre: Anal, BDSM, Blond, Blonde, Blowjob, Bondage, Boot, Brunet, Cattle Prod, Corporal Punishment, Discipline, Fake Boobs, Female Slave, Humiliation, Master, MILF, Muscular, Natural Boobs, Oral Sex, Paddle, Role Play, Rope Bondage, Rough Sex, Shaved, Slim, Straight, Stud, Switch, Tattoo, Threesome, Toned, WhiteDescription: Hot MILF Simone …

BDSMmania_Part 3: The Tank Date: July 8, 2013Genre: BDSM, Big Tits, Blonde, Bondage, Brunette, Choking, Domination, Dunking, Fake Boobs, Fear Play, Feet, Natural Boobs, Pussy Eating, Shaved, Slave, Slim, Straight, Submission, Tattoo, Toned, Unshaved, Water Tank, WhiteDescription: Completely naked with her hands and feet bound, Lea Lexis has never been …

BDSMmania_Lesbian Latex Blasphemy: Ashley Paige Whips the Sin Out Of Bella Rossi Date: November 21, 2019Genre: BDSM, Big Tits, Bondage, Corporal Punishment, Curvy, Dildo, Dominatrix, Facesitting, Feet, Femdom, Fingering, Humiliation, Latex, Lesbian, LezDom, Natural Boobs, Other Hair Color, Pussy Eating, Shaved, Slapping, Slave, Straight, Strap On, Sub, Tattoo, Vibrator, WhiteDescription: …

STR8Hell – Jan Faust – CFNM File size: 770.2 MBStudio: Str8hell.comFormat: mov (QuickTime)Duration: 54:32Video: 960×540, AVC (H.264), 1800kbpsAudio 122kbpsIn Fitness Coach we have our sexy Jan Faust being trained by a very hot girl in her gym. She needs to check Jan first and has him start with some chin-ups. …

Breaking in a stud File size: 357.5 MBGenres: BDSM, Fem DomStudio: Small TalkRelease Year: 2005Video language: GermanFormat: lavfprefDuration: 12:37Video: 720×576, AVC (H.264), 3738kbpsAudio 124kbpsNothing can get this busty brunette off better than full control over a huge burly man – like her new slave, for example. Watch her find one …

Anya Alexander & Elizabeth Andrews File size: 475.0 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureVideo language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 15:05Video: 1280×720, AVC (H.264), 4168kbpsAudio 125kbpsAnya Alexander is new at DiD and Elizabeth Andrews is leading her into the office for a bit of a surprise training session. She’s blindfolded with a pink leather blindfold and Lizz …

The Missing Drugs File size: 401.1 MBRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: Windows MediaDuration: 42:52Video: 480×360, Windows Media Video 9, 1220kbpsAudio 62kbpsLover of beauty (on the figure, so exactly) Cindy, for a long time, hidden from the beloved that is a drug dealer. And she, naive, thinking that the house on …

Terror Perverse – Nina’s Nightmares File size: 699.6 MBRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: aviDuration: 47:36Video: 640×416, XviD, 1448kbpsAudio 125kbpsAnother in the “Terror Perverse!” series from Poland’s Teraz Films, combining “hardcore elements in the style of the Italian Fumetti books…with hilariously-unintelligible accents, Jacques Cousteau-style line delivery, a blistering-hot, oiled-up female body, …

Ponygirls Jane and Kasha part 2 File size: 200.9 MBCast: Jane and KashaStudio: SM-CircusVideo language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 17:11Video: 864×480, AVC (H.264), 1465kbpsAudio 124kbpsJane and Kasha in finest ponygirl action. This is the 2nd and final part of this movie. Download from FileMonster:>>>DOWNLOAD

Interrogating Riley Jan File size: 513.8 MBGenres: Bondage, Torture, BdsmRelease Year: 2017Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 22:56Video: 1280×720, AVC (H.264), 2934kbpsAudio 118kbpsInterrogating slave Riley Jane bizarre plastic stick bondage action. Download from FileMonster:>>>DOWNLOAD

Japanese Bdsm classic from Sm Club Doma File size: 704.9 MBGenres: BDSMFormat: aviDuration: 59:54Video: 720×480, DivX 5, 1407kbpsAudio 187kbpsThis is an old movie from SM Club Doma in the Netherlands, featuring only Japanese actors. Since it’s a dutch production all the action is uncensored. It’s been on my hard drive …

Femdom_Ep 7 – The Business Slave: Seduced by Two Mistresses Date: March 30, 2018Genre: Ball Gag, BDSM, Big Tits, Bizarre, Black Hair, Blindfold, Blonde, Bondage, Brunette, CBT, Chains, Clothespins, Collar, Corporal Punishment, Deprivation, Domination, Dominatrix, Dungeon, Fear Play, Femdom, Fetish, Flogging, Foreskin, Gag, Handjob, High Heels, Hot Wax, Humiliation, Kidnapping …

BDSMmania_Training Violet Monroe Date: February 14, 2017Genre: Anal, Ass Hook, BDSM, Bondage, Bottom, Brunet, Brunette, Clothespins, Clover Clamps, Corporal Punishment, Deprivation, Discipline, Fear Play, Female Slave, Gimp, Humiliation, Latin, Master, Natural Boobs, Oral Sex, Role Play, Rope Bondage, Shaved, Straight, Tattoo, Toned, Weights, White, ZapperDescription: Beautiful and sultry Violet Monroe …

BDSMmania_Part 2: Wet Stalkings Date: July 1, 2013Genre: BDSM, Big Tits, Blonde, Bondage, Brunette, Crop, Dildo, Domination, Fake Boobs, Fear Play, Natural Boobs, Shaved, Slave, Slim, Straight, Submission, Tattoo, Toned, Unshaved, Water Tank, WhiteDescription: In the second of my all-new W.B. updates, I bring together the same three Slts from …

Inappropriate Attire Discipline File size: 436.0 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 13:58Video: 1280×720, AVC (H.264), 4133kbpsAudio 125kbpsAnna came into the office to meet with Ms Andrews, but for what she wasn’t sure. Lizz quickly enlightened her as to the problem with her dress and heels and how much …

Bound For Revenge – Pantyhose Bondage File size: 362.7 MBRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: Windows MediaDuration: 1:05:25Video: 480×320, Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile, 691kbpsAudio 62kbpsAlicia Silver wants to give her boyfriend a gift. She wants Dolly to tie her up in her uniform. Dolly agrees and hog-ties Alicia but …

Pantyhose Saleswoman Field Tests Her Product File size: 504.1 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureVideo language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 16:07Video: 1280×720, AVC (H.264), 4141kbpsAudio 125kbpsMr Big Boss is expecting a visitor. Anna is a sales rep for a pantyhose company that is coming to try to offer him a pantyhose sales arrangement. The trouble is …

Tera Knightley On The Sybian File size: 200.0 MBRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: Windows MediaDuration: 8:48Video: 1280×720, Windows Media Video V8Audio 125kbpsTera Knightley is a kinky girl that loves bondage. She had never been on a Sybian before, and wanted to give it a try. With her hands secured, nipple …

Femdom_Ep 6 – Bizarre Examination: at Dr. Dust’s Mercy Date: March 16, 2018Genre: Anal, Anal Stretching, BDSM, Big Tits, Bizarre, Black Hair, Blonde, Bondage, Breast Abuse, CBT, Chastity Play, Clothespins, Corporal Punishment, Deprivation, Doctor, Domination, Dominatrix, Edging, Electrical Play, Electro Plug, Enema, Fear Play, Femdom, Fetish, Foreskin, Gloves, Handjob, High …

Femdom_Officer’s Boot beauty (2019) Genre: Femdom, Boot Licking, BondageDescription: Officer Deltore visits her caged prisoner to give him a taste of freedom. His freedom will consist of licking the filth off the bottom of her black leather boots until he can see his own reflection in them. She wants his …

BDSMmania_Discipline for Mommy’s Little Anal Slt Date: February 7, 2017Genre: Anal, Athletic, BDSM, Big Dick, Bondage, Brunet, Brunette, Caning, Corporal Punishment, Director’s Picks: Ex Libris, Discipline, Female Slave, Hot Wax, Humiliation, Master, MILF, Natural Boobs, Oral Sex, Role Play, Rope Bondage, Rough Sex, Shaved, Slim, Straight, Switch, Tattoo, Threesome, Top, …

BDSMmania_Part 1: The Shower Date: July 29, 2013Genre: BDSM, Big Tits, Blonde, Bondage, Brunette, Domination, Fake Boobs, Fear Play, Femdom, Lesbian, Natural Boobs, Shaved, Slim, Smoking, Straight, Submission, Tattoo, Toned, Unshaved, Water Tank, WhiteDescription: This is it! The first of three brand new W.B. updates. I’m sure most of you …

Professional Development Entertainment File size: 579.0 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 14:59Video: 1648×928, AVC (H.264), 5081kbpsAudio 187kbpsAnna knocks on Mr Big Boss’s office door and comes in to see exactly what it was she was beckoned for. He quickly tells her that he’s got a training manual to …

Night of Torture Part 1 – Scene 9 File size: 719.4 MBRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: Windows MediaDuration: 46:59Video: 1280×720, Windows Media Video 9, 1953kbpsAudio 125kbpsShe tries to shake her body, to shake off the sting. But she can barely move as it is and then the flogger starts in …

Evita D. Masochistin File size: 701.3 MBRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: aviDuration: 1:15:07Video: 576×320, XviD, 1131kbpsAudio 131kbpsif the suitable name for the newest issue is the legendary master , because the extremely hard n.m. pictures of this stripe can be realised only with a real masochist. In a sombre dungeon …

Femdom_Ep 5 – Tied up in the Public Forest: Outdoor Torment by the Baroness Date: March 7, 2018Genre: BDSM, Big Tits, Bizarre, Black Hair, Blindfold, Blonde, Bondage, Caning, CBT, Chastity Play, Clover Clamps, Corporal Punishment, Crotch Rope, Deprivation, Discipline, Domination, Dominatrix, Fear Play, Femdom, Fetish, Flogging, Foreskin, Hand Gagging, High …

BDSMmania_Speech Training an Anal Slt: Ella Nova Date: January 31, 2017Genre: Anal, Ass To Mouth, Ball Gag, BDSM, Blonde, Bondage, Bottom, Brunet, Corporal Punishment, Discipline, Facefucking, Female Slave, Gimp, Humiliation, Latin, Master, Natural Boobs, Oral Sex, Pain, Role Play, Rope Bondage, Shaved, Slapping, Slave, Straight, Tattoo, Vibrator, White, ZapperDescription: Ella …

BDSMmania_Lynn Dumaire Date: October 11, 2004Genre: BDSM, Bondage, Brunette, Domination, Fear Play, Natural Boobs, Slim, Straight, Submission, Water Tank, WhiteDescription: Lynn is late for her W.B. scene. Chanta hates late models so the location of the shoot is changed and Lynn finds herself in a dark, damp basement. She is …

Hogtied, Frogtie, and Ballgagged File size: 520.2 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 13:27Video: 1648×928, AVC (H.264), 5087kbpsAudio 187kbpsBelle was seated on Mr Big Boss’s desk in her tight black pants and polka dot blouse. Mr Big Boss soon joins her and she starts rifling through the gag and …

Slave Girl Vol. 2 File size: 699.6 MBFormat: aviDuration: 1:21:26Video: 576×432, XviD, 1038kbpsAudio 109kbpsThey will do as they are told no matter how perverse without any complaints, meet the Slave Girl. More slaves subject themselves to spanking, bondage, candle wax, whipping, electro-shock and much more from merciless Mistresses. Download from …

Cheerleaders Bound And Gagged Scene 2 File size: 699.8 MBRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: aviDuration: 44:57Video: 512×384, XviD, 1979kbpsAudio 128kbpsMadison Young is walking home from cheerleading practice in her jeans, sneakers and sports shirt. Suddenly we see her marched in bound and gagged. She is put to the floor and …

I know you are thinking about tying me up File size: 531.4 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 14:00Video: 1648×928, AVC (H.264), 4988kbpsAudio 187kbpsSassy Anna Lee walks into the office where Mr. Big Boss is sitting. With her hips on her hands, she tells him that she knows he …

Femdom_Ep 4 – Suspension, Electro-Play and Torment by the Baroness Date: March 6, 2018Genre: Anal, BDSM, Big Tits, Bizarre, Blonde, Bondage, Brunet, Cage, CBT, Chastity Play, Corporal Punishment, Corset, Deprivation, Discipline, Domination, Dungeon, Electrical Play, Electro Plug, Electrode Punishments, Feet, Femdom, Fetish, First Anal, Flogging, Foot Fetish, Foot Worship, Foreskin, …

BDSMmania_65 Minutes of Hell! Date: March 30, 2017Genre: Ball Gag, BDSM, Big Dick, Bondage, Bottom, Brunet, Brunette, Corporal Punishment, Director’s Picks: JP The Pope, Domination, Fingering, Handler, Humiliation, Natural Boobs, Rope Bondage, Slim, Straight, Submission, Tattoo, The Pope, Unshaved, Vaginal Penetration, WhiteDescription: Roxanne is known for being a little brat, …

BDSMmania_Brooke Bound Date: February 9, 2005Genre: BDSM, Bondage, Brunette, Domination, Fear Play, Natural Boobs, Straight, Submission, Water Tank, WhiteDescription: It’s nice to have servants when on vacation although Brooke wasn’t working out that well for me, especially when she spills my drink! I strip her, tie her and weight her …

BDSMmania_Charlotte Sins: Tall Blonde Beauty Makes Her Debut Date: December 5, 2019Genre: Ball Gag, BDSM, Blonde, Bondage, Corporal Punishment, Domination, Fingering, Gag, Handler, Humiliation, Nipple Clamps, Rope Bondage, Straight, Submission, Suspension, The Pope, Vaginal PenetrationDescription: Charlotte Sins is a sweet young Slt who’s wanted to shoot for Kink for a …

Bound By The Card File size: 851.4 MBFormat: aviDuration: 1:12:25Video: 720×480, DivX 5, 1466kbpsAudio 125kbpsLuscious fetish superstar Tory Sinclair plays Bryans girlfriend and she simply cant control her credit card spending. Naughty, naughty girl! To teach her a lesson, he ties her up and breaks her down! And as if …

Ariel Marie : First Day On The Job File size: 426.0 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 13:39Video: 1280×720, AVC (H.264), 4131kbpsAudio 125kbpsAriel Marie enters Mr Big Boss’s office to meet him and to undergo her “bondage orientation.” He starts by binding her wrists first followed by finding out …

Femdom_Ep 2 – Lesson in Latex: the Transformation of a Rubberdoll Date: March 2, 2018Genre: BDSM, Big Tits, Bizarre, Blonde, Bondage, Brunet, CBT, Chains, Corporal Punishment, Corset, Destruction, Discipline, Domination, Dominatrix, Dungeon, Electrical Play, Electrode Punishments, Feet, Femdom, Fetish, Foot Worship, Foreskin, Gimp, Gloves, High Heels, Hood, Kinky, Latex, Male …

BDSMmania_Training of a Bondage Slave: Eliza Jane Day Two Date: January 17, 2017Genre: Anal, Athletic, BDSM, Big Dick, Blonde, Bondage, Brunet, Corporal Punishment, Discipline, Facefucking, Female Slave, Flogging, Gimp, High Heels, Humiliation, Master, Natural Boobs, Nipple Clamps, Oral Sex, Petite, Role Play, Rope Bondage, Shaved, Slave, Slim, Straight, Suspension, Top, …

BDSMmania_Crystal Frost Date: November 30, 2004Genre: BDSM, Blonde, Bondage, Domination, Fear Play, Multiple Orgasms, Natural Boobs, Straight, Submission, Suspension, Water Tank, Weights, WhiteDescription: Crystal is back and as loud as ever…how do we shut her up? Easy, put her head under water! She can deal with the multiple orgasms and …

Tape Bound In The Warehouse File size: 613.5 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 19:54Video: 1280×720, AVC (H.264), 4078kbpsAudio 125kbpsAriel Marie hasn’t ever been pantyhose encased before so Mr Big Boss sets out to change that. Starting with her in a pantyhose suit he gags her with pantyhose before …

Frog Frolick Part Two – Hollie Stevens File size: 146.2 MBFormat: realDuration: 37:47Video: 640×480, RV40Audio 94kbpsA terrifying array of harsh bondage devices and severe positions entrap Hollie Stevens’ in a nightmare dance of and agony. Hollie’s fucked with a wooden dildo that’s cranked inside of her, made to kneel on …

Ariel Marie – The Boss’s Plaything File size: 398.2 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 13:02Video: 1280×720, AVC (H.264), 4041kbpsAudio 125kbpsAriel finds herself in Mr Big Boss’s office and is dressed in a very nice corset and leather skirt. He’s just gotten out of a very big stressful meeting …

Femdom_Ep 3 – Bizarre dinner date: Dominant sploshing Date: March 5, 2018Genre: BDSM, Big Tits, Bizarre, Blonde, Bondage, Boot Worship, Brunet, Corset, Destruction, Discipline, Domination, Dominatrix, Feet, Femdom, Fetish, Foot Worship, Foreskin, Gimp, High Heels, Hood, Humiliation, Kinky, Latex, Leather, Male Sub, Natural Boobs, Slim, Sploshing, Straight, Submission, Thirdparty, WhiteDescription: …

BDSMmania_Holiday Gift: Angel Allwood is Mona Wales & Fox Acecaria’s Slutty Toy (2019) Genre: BDSM, Bondage, Femdom, Lesbian, Anal, Double Penetration, LezDom, Strap-on, Pussy Licking, Vibrator, Ass Licking, Rimming, Dildo, Nipple Clamps, Flogging, Zapper, Clothespins, Fingering, Foot Licking, Stockings, Ball Gag, WaxDescription: Tis the season for giving. and on this …

Femdom_Goddess Tangent FemDom Strap-on Training (2019) Year: 2019Genre: Femdom, Strapon, Pegging, Sissy TrainingDescription: When someone gets promoted from a regular person to Goddess Tangent’s slave, a few important changes take place. Firstly, and almost immediately, regardless of background and personality, the person becomes a sissy of Goddess Tangent – a …

BDSMmania_Slave Training Gorgeous Newbie: Riley Nixon Date: December 6, 2016Genre: Anal, BDSM, Bondage, Bottom, Brunet, Brunette, Corporal Punishment, Discipline, Domination, Female Slave, Gimp, Humiliation, Master, Muscular, Natural Boobs, Oral Sex, Role Play, Rope Bondage, Slave, Slim, Straight, Stud, Tattoo, WhiteDescription: When tough and sexy Riley Nixon submits to slave trainer …

BDSMmania_Jessica Sexin Date: August 30, 2004Genre: BDSM, Blonde, Bondage, Domination, Fear Play, Natural Boobs, Straight, Submission, Water Tank, WhiteDescription: It’s always good to take a bondage virgin, tie them up and just make them cum! This immediately creates trust and makes them want more…that’s when you make it harder, tighter …

Naughty Poppy File size: 448.3 MBRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 5:21Video: 1920×1080, AVC (H.264), 11267kbpsAudio 187kbpsNaughty Poppy fucks a masked guy out in the open with her strapon in standing position. He then gives her a strapon blowjob. Download from FileMonster:>>>DOWNLOAD

Sammie romance vol.1 720p File size: 201.2 MBFormat: Windows MediaDuration: 13:09Video: 1280×720, Windows Media Video 9, 1953kbpsAudio 125kbpsHer punishment is to present her ample bottom to headmaster a punishing spanking. Download from FileMonster:>>>DOWNLOAD

Tightly Tied Belle Tries To Free Herself File size: 511.4 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 12:42Video: 1648×928, AVC (H.264), 5307kbpsAudio 187kbpsBelle is seated waiting on Elizabeth to enter with an escape challenge. Elizabeth enters cutting a striking figure with a high slit skirt showing off a stocking and …

Gibbet – Lavender Rayne File size: 124.3 MBFormat: realDuration: 38:21Video: 640×480, RV40Audio 94kbpsVanquished by metal, Lavender Rayne is shackled and locked into the metal chastity belt, metal tit press, and most titillating of all, the gibbet fitted with a fucking machine. PD’s sweet approach at the beginning feels . Sure …

Ariel Marie : Go Getter Gets Bound File size: 600.3 MBGenres: BDSM,Rope,Bondage,tortureRelease Year: 2019Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 15:02Video: 1648×928, AVC (H.264), 5262kbpsAudio 187kbpsAriel Marie is back to see Mr Big Boss and she is going to be a go getter by beginning without him. He has other ideas and praises …

Caged Cumslut Part Two – Melody File size: 158.0 MBFormat: realDuration: 37:53Video: 640×480, RV40Audio 94kbpsPsychological vivisection, encasement, torment, and savage sexual eruption. As Melody awaits her punishment in a specialized cage. moments of her interrogation her. PD feeds her slop then scrubs her feet harshly and canes them. He holds …

Nyxon & Luna Dawn File size: 225.9 MBGenres: Bondage, Roped, TiedRelease Year: 2018Video language: EnglishFormat: mp4Duration: 7:25Video: 1280×720, AVC (H.264), 3911kbpsAudio 240kbpsEnjoy seeing Nyxon getting tied up nice & tight? Do you also enjoy watching Nyxon tie up her girlfriends in unescapeable bondage predicaments? Download from FileMonster:>>>DOWNLOAD

Femdom_Ep 1 – Caught and Interrogated: In the Dungeon of The Baroness Date: March 1, 2018Genre: Anal, Anal Fingering, BDSM, Big Tits, Bizarre, Blonde, Bondage, Brunet, Corporal Punishment, Crop, Domination, Dominatrix, Dungeon, Femdom, Fetish, Foreskin, Gag, Gloves, High Heels, Hood, Kinky, Latex, Leather Cuffs, Male Sub, Mummification, Natural Boobs, Nipple …

BDSMmania_Fantastically Fevered Folsom Orgy Date: October 18, 2016Genre: Anal, BDSM, Big Dick, Big Tits, Blonde, Bondage, Brunet, Corporal Punishment, Director’s Picks: Ex Libris, Discipline, Domination, Fake Boobs, Female Slave, Flogging, Folsom, Folsomfever, Folsom_st, Hard Parties, Humiliation, K.y, Master, Muscular, Natural Boobs, Noose, Oral Sex, Orgy, Petite, Redhead, Role Play, Rope …

BDSMmania_Sasha Sparks Date: December 21, 2004Genre: BDSM, Bondage, Brunette, Domination, Fake Boobs, Fear Play, Straight, Submission, Toned, Water Tank, WhiteDescription: Most girls look good when wet and in bondage but Sasha takes it to a whole new level. Her body was created to be tied up and when hosed down …